I had an interesting interaction today that I thought I'd share with the group, since it was a powerful reminder of several game principles that are valuable to both newbies and experienced players alike.
While running one of my regular practices, al-fresco game (thread on this forthcoming), I saw a couple of cute-as-button girls coming my direction. I rinsed the green stuff out of my teeth with my glass of water and played it cool while they made their way up the sidewalk. When they got close enough, I swiveled back to place and opened them with an admittedly weak, almost embarrassing, line--though it was still good enough to get to them to stop. When they did stop, I got a better look at them. One of them seemed younger than the other, but I estimated they were 18 or 19--especially since I was near a youth hostel, where a lot of college-age girls (and older) hang out. They were both well-dressed, with semi-hipster attire that they'd clearly bought at vintage stores or non-mainstream boutiques. I'd place them both around 8s.
They lingered for a while and chatted, but it wasn't until the younger-looking blurted out, while laughing at one of my jokes, "what do you expect from a 14- and 15-year-old?" that I realized I was wandering into some dangerous territory. When I inquired further, I confirmed they were students at local high schools. The kicker was when the older one said, "You're a cool guy and all, but I don't think my mom would like it if I brought a strange guy home." (this was before the other one said the what-do-you-expect line and was in response to me inviting myself to their place--which, before then, I assumed was the hostel up the street). I blew the line off skillfully, but started to realize something was amiss. Eventually, one of them texted her mom to come pick them both up.
Needless to say, I let them go without making any moves, but I culled some interesting, real-world reminders:
1. Young girls have sophisticated game, at the level of guys 8-10 years older than them.
These girls were in, roughly, the 9th and 10th grades, but they knew how to evade my well-polished player-advances deftly (before I knew their ages), playing hard-to-get like a couple of 26-year-old chicks at a bar. They didn't scurry away in fear. They milked me for more attention. While most boys this age are still playing tag and video games, the girls are getting hit on by horny guys that are way older than them (e.g., Tuthmosis). These girls are definitely not hanging with guys their age, and they've definitely touched dick.
2. Young girls love weed and alcohol.
It didn't take long for our conversation to go into drugs/alcohol territory--a topic they broached. If you think the average 14- or 15-year-old girl that is even remotely cute is an innocent little flower playing with barbies, think again. American society may like to infantalize girls, but it's not grounded in anything but a vehement and foolhardy denial of the realities on the ground. These weren't pierced-up, ghetto-talking skanks either. They were a couple of nice-looking, sweet chicks who could carry on a decent conversation and made me genuinely chuckle a couple times with their wise-cracks.
3. It's nearly impossible to tell the difference between many, if not most, 15- to 18-year-olds.
Many of us agree that age-of-consent laws in America are ridiculous, especially when they're based entirely on numerical age, and that number is several years past sexual maturity. These girls looked and acted like college girls (bodies and faces). If they hadn't volunteered the information on their age, I could have easily been fooled. Men are given an unconscionable amount of legal responsibility when it comes to confirming a girl's age, while girls get a complete pass. (Incidentally, I live in a state where the age of consent is 18.)
4. These girls were game.
If I'd pushed it, ran better game (I admittedly let up on the gas when I learned their ages), or come through with some weed or wine coolers, it's quite likely that I could have scored some action with these girls. A player, as they say, knows.
First things first: be careful out there, guys. Even though everything turned out fine in my situation, all it would have taken was a another false move or two (and a phone call to the police from an angry mother) to get me locked up for doing what men are programmed to do. Age-of-consent laws may be royally idiotic, but they're still the law.
Second: Don't ever let aging harpies and jealous betas make you feel guilty for gaming 18-20 year-olds when you're 10, 15, or 20 years older than them. These girls start piling up experience early, and if you "do the right thing" and "date" a girl your own age, you're getting way more mileage than meets the eye. If you talk to any hot girl in her 20s and 30s, you'll learn that she was "hooking up with guys" as young as 11. And, you can bet your bottom dollar that most of those guys were older than them. I've had several girls that I've gone out with straight-up volunteer information like this.
While running one of my regular practices, al-fresco game (thread on this forthcoming), I saw a couple of cute-as-button girls coming my direction. I rinsed the green stuff out of my teeth with my glass of water and played it cool while they made their way up the sidewalk. When they got close enough, I swiveled back to place and opened them with an admittedly weak, almost embarrassing, line--though it was still good enough to get to them to stop. When they did stop, I got a better look at them. One of them seemed younger than the other, but I estimated they were 18 or 19--especially since I was near a youth hostel, where a lot of college-age girls (and older) hang out. They were both well-dressed, with semi-hipster attire that they'd clearly bought at vintage stores or non-mainstream boutiques. I'd place them both around 8s.
They lingered for a while and chatted, but it wasn't until the younger-looking blurted out, while laughing at one of my jokes, "what do you expect from a 14- and 15-year-old?" that I realized I was wandering into some dangerous territory. When I inquired further, I confirmed they were students at local high schools. The kicker was when the older one said, "You're a cool guy and all, but I don't think my mom would like it if I brought a strange guy home." (this was before the other one said the what-do-you-expect line and was in response to me inviting myself to their place--which, before then, I assumed was the hostel up the street). I blew the line off skillfully, but started to realize something was amiss. Eventually, one of them texted her mom to come pick them both up.
Needless to say, I let them go without making any moves, but I culled some interesting, real-world reminders:
1. Young girls have sophisticated game, at the level of guys 8-10 years older than them.
These girls were in, roughly, the 9th and 10th grades, but they knew how to evade my well-polished player-advances deftly (before I knew their ages), playing hard-to-get like a couple of 26-year-old chicks at a bar. They didn't scurry away in fear. They milked me for more attention. While most boys this age are still playing tag and video games, the girls are getting hit on by horny guys that are way older than them (e.g., Tuthmosis). These girls are definitely not hanging with guys their age, and they've definitely touched dick.
2. Young girls love weed and alcohol.
It didn't take long for our conversation to go into drugs/alcohol territory--a topic they broached. If you think the average 14- or 15-year-old girl that is even remotely cute is an innocent little flower playing with barbies, think again. American society may like to infantalize girls, but it's not grounded in anything but a vehement and foolhardy denial of the realities on the ground. These weren't pierced-up, ghetto-talking skanks either. They were a couple of nice-looking, sweet chicks who could carry on a decent conversation and made me genuinely chuckle a couple times with their wise-cracks.
3. It's nearly impossible to tell the difference between many, if not most, 15- to 18-year-olds.
Many of us agree that age-of-consent laws in America are ridiculous, especially when they're based entirely on numerical age, and that number is several years past sexual maturity. These girls looked and acted like college girls (bodies and faces). If they hadn't volunteered the information on their age, I could have easily been fooled. Men are given an unconscionable amount of legal responsibility when it comes to confirming a girl's age, while girls get a complete pass. (Incidentally, I live in a state where the age of consent is 18.)
4. These girls were game.
If I'd pushed it, ran better game (I admittedly let up on the gas when I learned their ages), or come through with some weed or wine coolers, it's quite likely that I could have scored some action with these girls. A player, as they say, knows.
First things first: be careful out there, guys. Even though everything turned out fine in my situation, all it would have taken was a another false move or two (and a phone call to the police from an angry mother) to get me locked up for doing what men are programmed to do. Age-of-consent laws may be royally idiotic, but they're still the law.
Second: Don't ever let aging harpies and jealous betas make you feel guilty for gaming 18-20 year-olds when you're 10, 15, or 20 years older than them. These girls start piling up experience early, and if you "do the right thing" and "date" a girl your own age, you're getting way more mileage than meets the eye. If you talk to any hot girl in her 20s and 30s, you'll learn that she was "hooking up with guys" as young as 11. And, you can bet your bottom dollar that most of those guys were older than them. I've had several girls that I've gone out with straight-up volunteer information like this.