Quote: (05-20-2015 03:02 PM)TheWastelander Wrote:
Mises is a good example of a moralistic, culturally conservative libertarian but he fails to realize the shortcomings of his views. His libertarianism is only possible and sustainable in a moral and just homogeneous society in the same way true communism is possible and sustainable only if you destroy man's greed and his innate desire to improve his situation. He acknowledges the reality that societies have often disappeared because of rampant deviancy and libertinism, yet believes that he and like-minded folks can prevent it without ever using force to do so. I call bullshit on that. It clearly hasn't worked.
So what do you submit is the solution? Morality police like in Iran and Saudi Arabia? Lynch mobs?
The natural response to wierdos is already well known. When people see a wierdo in the street, they increase their distance. They do not reduce their distance to attack - that would be wierd. If the wierdo reduces the distance to within personal space, then they attack. Only in the case where the wierdo has become a problem (e.g. constantly disrupting people's lives in the community), do they form groups with other like minded citizens and go beat him up to repel him. This is social law.
These freaks have always existed, the difference being that social ostracism has become more limited. Under normal conditions, people like this directly suffer for their weirdness. They are denied work or lose their jobs. Their businesses fail as customers leave them. They are denied service at other businesses. They are denied tenancy. They are slowly pushed to the outskirts of society. No one attacks them - but doors close all around them.
Under modern conditions, if no one will employ him or give him business - he is given welfare. He is given free accommodation. If his boss fires him because he's a freak, he can sue for 'discrimination'. If his landlord kicks him out for the same - he can sue for unfair eviction. Hell, if they won't bake him a cake they can be successfully sued for thousands of dollars. And if people say he's a freak, they are attacked as immoral. Why? Because of government advertising, public education, and by 'equality campaigns' funded by governments and their ideological arms.
The problem is unrestrained democracy and the constitution. In the US this is manifested by power draining from the States towards the Federal government, and by vagueness in the Constitution giving excess political power to the Federal judges. More than half the states, for instance, banned same-sex marriage, and yet they are still forced have it anyway by the Federal judiciary. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S...ns_by_type