Quote: (02-18-2015 11:59 PM)Deluge Wrote:
Quote: (02-18-2015 10:49 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:
millennial dismissive-avoidant social awkwardness
Haha, I really like this phrase. I think I'm going to borrow it. To be fair, I think that's been a young people's thing since at least the early 90's though, i.e Daria and My So Called Life.
Off topic, so feel free to skip over this. My mind's on fire today and churning over a lot of thoughts in my head.
I just wanted to point out the generation differences, because ironic detachment isn't the same as dismissive-avoidance, and having banged both generations of women, there are clear differences in their social, sexual and emotional behaviour. I'm restricting my viewpoint here to the middle upper class / educated women. Prole girls are always ready to fuck and marry.
Firstly, any Millennial who has wandered into this forum has wandered far off the reservation of traditional Millennial thought that any criticisms I have of their generation as a group doesn't apply to them.
Secondly, I don't think my generation was anything to write home about. We're the idiots who gave you third wave feminism and the PC craze of the early 90's that quickly died out, but seems to have been revived, so it's not a competition.
Anyway, as to the Daria / MSCL thing...
Generation X was about thinking society was lame, and that you were above it. You were suspicious of government, questioned false media narratives, and despised anything corporate. The reaction to feeling awkward and not quite fitting in was ironic detachment, some lightweight nihilism, and showing how individual you were through your superior taste in alternative music and media. There was a lot of undirected political anger channelled into slacktivist leftist causes that didn't really go anywhere.
A Gen X girl would think she was the smartest person in the room, and be already ready to loudly debate the political issues of the day, and be convinced she could fit in if she really wanted to be a conformist sheep like 'everyone else', but she would rather eat a gun than be that lame, and if anyone called her a loser, she would give them the finger, not caring. She would want a boyfriend, but one who 'got it', i.e thought everything was 'lame' too. Unless he was popular and showed interest, then this whole persona would instantly vanish. I saw many Daria's turn into Marcia Brady's for the right boy.
Being a blue pill millennial is about thinking society is sick, and that you can change it. You want to hand more power to the government to keep you from feeling uncomfortable; want to get paid by the media to sell their false narratives; and aspire to be a corporate drone and consume their bland, branded products as a signifier of superior personal taste.
The reaction to feeling awkward and not quite fitting is to remove or minimise the source of your discomfort; engage in farming approval via social media; owning branded products to signify status; and to not risk standing out from the crowd through a difference of taste or opinion, and so desire to share a collective eclectic identity via consuming the same high and low culture as everyone else.
There's a lot of carefully-directed political anger channelled into slacktivist leftist causes by political agitators that threaten to turn into fascism, but incompetence and identity politics keep derailing any true change because someone in the cause wants to grab for power by claiming to suffer greater victimisation than anyone else.
A millennial girl thinks she's the smartest girl in the room, whilst simultaneously thinking she's a lightweight, intellectual fraud, and is terrified of anyone who might show her up as a fool via debate, and would therefore would prefer the safety of a hugbox and avoid debate entirely, and, when it did arise, would immediately shut it down the moment she didn't have a valid counterargument, probably via some claim to superiority such as 'I don't have time for this'.
She believes she's popular and has no trouble fitting in - after all, she shares the same opinions and consumes the same culture as everyone else, whilst simultaneously thinking she's an unlovable loser, and is terrified that someone, somewhere might realise this and call her out on it, and would respond with some kind of snarky, positive self-affirmation statement, such as "All body shapes are beautiful", then unleash a torrent of hypocritical personal abuse at her critic.
She wants a boyfriend to act out the required role in the movie she believes she's starring in. Her self-loathing means she doesn't believe she's capable of being loved, and that she's worldly enough to know that nothing lasts and all relationships end up in disappointment, and, as such, can be combative and indifferent to male attention, seeming like she's actively pushing away any interest so her life becomes self-fulfilling prophecy. In a relationship, she's demanding and entitled, because a real man never can live up to her scripted one. In sex, she's a phoney actor, who makes poor sexual choices in the name of being perceived as 'hot' and 'sexy', and puts on a porn-worthy performance, then suffers guilt and regret when the experience doesn't match her expected fantasy of sex. Particularly that if you're a slutty whore for a guy, he will instantly respect you and want to girlfriend you up.
As such, she learns to seeks out men she knows will abandon her and disappoint her, because that's all she believes she deserves. Give the millennial girls a few more years, and they won't even seek that, because they're transitioning from fear and distrust of men into sex negativity, like the Puritans they secretly crave to be. If no-one is having sex, then everyone else will share their sexual / emotional rejection, and be as frustrated as they are.
Read any of MikeCF's attackers: they're miserable human beings. Their goal isn't to make him see their point of view. They just want him to be as unhappy as they are.
She wants to change the world out of pure selfishness: so her negatives become valued positives. As such, they're always hiding toxic abhorrence, and their constant political activism is based on the need to hide their rotten souls from public view through misdirection.
She'll treat men as lightweight entertainment and distractions for when she needs to be distracted, because she believes she isn't worthy of a relationship.
Basically, the difference between Gen X and Millennial Girls is a greater capacity for doublethink, and the direction of the loathing. The 90's girls loathed outwards, the 10's girls loathe inwards. Don't believe one word of the empowerment mantras that dribble from their mouths, because they sure as hell don't. Rawdog them, dump them, they'll think it's what they deserve and pass the bitterness on to the next man.