[Isaac Jordan]

(02-12-2015 07:06 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  

We never chose the player life. The player life forces itself on us.

I bet my ass the majority of men here would be willing to shake off the player's lifestyle if they manage to find one such feminine traditional girl AND they have society's insurance and reward/punishment system to encourage her fidelity.

But because that's a dream long lost, we are left with the only choice of pumping and dumping sluts until we run into such a girl.

I was reading through the Chateau's archives and came across this post, in which Heartiste theorizes that the welfare state has helped craft a generation of players:

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When provider males who are predisposed to marry and support a family are worth less on the market than they used to be they are slowly replaced by playboys taking advantage of the sexual climate. Women who have their security needs met by Big Government (in combination with their own economic empowerment) begin to favor their desire for sexy, noncommital alpha males at the expense of their attraction for men who will foot the bills.

Prediction: As women’s financial status rises to levels at or above the available men in their social sphere, they will have great difficulty finding an acceptable long-term partner. The men, for their part, will turn away from emphasizing their ability to provide as they discover their mediocre-paying corporate jobs are no longer effective displays of mating value. They will instead emphasize the skills of “personality dominance”.

The betas either learn to adapt or learn to love celibacy. The “seduction community” has grown organically out of the cultural soil to help these guys adapt. Now, instead of spending their money on diapers, these guys are spending it on in-field instruction in nightclubs.

Our genes only care about one thing: What is the winning reproductive strategy?

Also worth noting is one of the comments:

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Let’s take a generic scenario. Imagine you’re given some task — what it is exactly isn’t important. You’re told to go about this task in a certain way and not to deviate from it; you’re assured that you will achieve results if you do as you are told. And it’s not just a supervisor telling you this: it’s the books you read, the movies you watch, and in fact is the general view of society that the task should be performed in this one way.

You attempt to perform this task in this way, but you’re not having much success. You occasionally succeed, but it’s far from frequent, and you can never ascertain what made it work one time and not work the next. You’re basically in the dark, but you don’t question the method you’re using, because everything you’ve learned is telling you to do it that way.

Then a guy comes up next to you to do the same task. But here’s the thing: he’s doing it a different way. He’s disregarding the received wisdom on how to perform the task, and guess what? He’s getting much better results than you, and when he fails, he’s able to identify why and correct the mistake in the future. Sure, his method isn’t foolproof, but it has a vastly higher success rate than yours.

Now, if you were in this situation, what would you do? Would you continue to use your method? Or would you observe what the successful guy is doing and adapt your approach so that it’s more like his? If you’re smart, you’d adapt, right?

Now, here’s how to apply this example to the subject at hand:

Task = Attracting women

Traditional method = The strategies for attracting women that are generally accepted: Niceness, flattery, loyalty, acquiescence to her desires, and downplaying sexuality

New method = Pickup strategies: Disinterest, teasing, pursuit of your own desires, and being unashamed of sexuality

Does it make sense now why men use pickup strategies? To put it more simply, men employ these tactics and attitudes because they attract more women more consistently than the traditional methods. It’s a simple matter of efficiency.

To clarify: I'm not bashing the player lifestyle. Hell, I just posted in the +1 thread about how I'm excited to be back in the game after ending a one-year LTR with a conservative, Christian virgin. I couldn't be more thankful for game and the red pill.

However, I know I wouldn't be here if I hadn't reacted to numerous rejections earlier in life exactly like the commenter above. I have no doubt that had I been born 50 years earlier, I'd be living the typical married beta life.