We talk a lot on the forum about the game relevant characteristics of women according to various metrics: ethnicity, nationality, class, location,age and so on, but one factor we haven't fully hashed out is how a girl's occupation reveals clues on how to game her and your chances of success.
I've banged girls from a wide variety of occupations and I'm going to give my observations and opinions derived from my personal experiences.
Bartender: I see a lot of guys on the forum asking how to game bartenders, I assume because they naturally have an interaction with them when they are out nightgaming. But bartenders are among the very toughest type of girls to bang when they are approached through their job. For whatever reason, what is really a menial service job has acquired cachet in the West at least, and bartenders tend to think they are the shit, especially if they are even semi-hot. I suppose it comes from being the center of attention and get a lot of supplication from male customers. Because it is a menial job in essence, bartenders tend to look down on their customers as an ego protection device. By trying to game her on the job, you are already in an inferior position in her mind. Overcoming this typically requires having strong game and social proof. Bartenders prefer guys who have an alpha persona, and are either good looking and somewhat jacked, or are the bad boy type, often drug dealers. Bartenders like drugs and partying, are shallow and of average intelligence. I have banged a number of them, and not a single one did I meet on the job. The approaches were all through social circle or online. Asshole game is effective; she's used to guys kissing her ass and craves to be treated like she is of no importance. Having good social connections in the party scene helps.
Lawyers- Among the most masculine of women mentally, though they can appear quite feminine.Look for the manjaw, though. Highly intelligent and status conscious, they are argumentative and competitive and will constantly challenge you. Due to the hypergamy instinct, often have a lot of trouble dating. Feels that almost no man is good enough for her and that men are intimidated by her, which is often true. They tend to fall at extreme ends of the spectrum; are either bookish prudes or aggressive hypersexuals. Best game is asshole with a lot of verbal sparring. Some of the over 35 ones are cougars who like much younger jacked guys they use as fuck toys; these can be found in large cities. In any case they are pump and dump or fuck buddy material only.
Teachers- One of my favorite occupations. The job attracts women who are feminine, nurturing and like children, and they are often sweet and pleasant. Their sex drive varies from normal to above average. Due to the feminisation of the educational system, teachers spend their days with other women or mostly betaish men. As a result , they are hungry for strong male companionship and respond eagerly to it. Confident and cocky funny works well, asshole is overkill usually, the one exception being early to mid twenties teachers who sometimes like it. For some reason, there is an inverse relationship between the age of the children they teach and their freakiness in their personal lives. The younger the children the teach, the wilder they are. I spent an afternoon this week banging a teacher who replied to my Craigslist ad; she can straight to a hotel room and we fucked for hours. She teaches elementary school. Don't ask teachers for nudes, they know they can be fired if they get onto the internet so better not to bring it up. The one this week sent nudes unasked and asked me for dick pics, which is atypical, but as I said she teaches elementary school. Teachers on vacation are a layup bang; just approach and run a bit of cocky funny and once you have her hooked glide on don't fuck it up.
Hairstylist- Vain, superficial, partying and not too intelligent, unless they are a salon owner. Often have a bitchy and arrogant personality. Don't bother trying to game them on the job, social circle or cold approach is best. Attracted to good looking, often jacked guys with dominant personalities and good social connections. Often a source themself of good social circle connection; several years ago I dated a salon owner and she had a lot of connections in her town, including many hot girls. Best game is extroverted social guy with an alpha , somewhat assholish persona. Avoid any hints of intellectuality. These girls are just about partying, substances and fucking. Very catty and love drama.
Artist- I find artsy girls very attractive, though they can be maddening to deal with. Flaky, emotional, feminine, pretentious, often with diagnosable mental illnesses, they can be extremely charming and really hook you. Often blow hot and cold; they can disappear for days or weeks and then come back and be all over you. Never believe what they say, they themselves don't know what they think. BPD, histrionic disorder, and manic depression is fairly common, as is drug use. Often present as a sweet, naive ingenue but don't be fooled, they are extremely manipulative. Often drawn to guys with an air of romantic mysteriousness or troubled bad boys. They appreciate intelligence and good taste in a man. They are experts at collecting a phalanx of beta orbiters who serve at their whim, so don't try to be her buddy, take charge on dates and escalate. Her orbiters will try to cockblock you, so be prepared. If they are gay, which some will be, get them to like you and they will take your side. These girls are often very sexual and freaky, and enjoy BDSM at a high rate.
Housekeeper- Here I mean hotel maids, cleaning service workers, and the like. They are simple, unsophisticated, and usually below average intelligence. Dress down, working class style, and take them to a dive bar for a beer. Use simple humor and run direct game with lots of kino. Less is more with them. Sex is a matter of fact natural function in their life, so get them a bit worked up and the bang is pretty easy. Make good fuck buddies.
Corporate exec/entrepreneur- Some similarity to lawyers, though less obnoxious. Somewhat masculine in their dating and sex lives, if they want to fuck they will be fairly direct about it. Cold approach works very well on them; they appreciate a man being aggressive. Quite a few of my cold approach SNLs have been this type. They are also far more likely to cold approach you than other types of women. Cocky funny works well, though be prepared for some heavy shit testing which you should combat with aloof asshole responses, which is what they are looking for. They like to be discreet on their home turf, but go crazy on vacation, so calibrate your kino accordingly. They don't play girl games too much; once they are down for it you can take them to the bang venue with minimal to no pretext.No LMR at all. Because they are in charge in their work life, they enjoy being submissive in bed, so feel free to ramp up the dominance and roughness even on the first bang. I've had this type tell me to slap them, put my hand on their throat, drop to their knees and deepthroat me, tell me to use them however I want within hours of first meeting them.
Blue collar workers- Factory workers, truckdrivers, construction, warehouse, trades, etc. The most masculine of all women in their sexual behavior, I'm assuming due to higher than normal T levels. I've met these women online and had them invite me straight to their house for sex within 30 minutes of arrival , then kick me out. Just like a dude. That's not the norm though, but it is a fact that direct game works best on them. Just approach and chat them up in a joking way. They like simple fun such as drinking and dancing in a bar. Dress down. Don't show any sign of intellectuality or education. Keep it direct, fun and kino a lot. Definitely go for sex the first time.
Nurse- Another of my favorite categories. Nurses are feminine and sexual. They have to deal with catty nurses and female administrators all day and crave male attention. Probably because they are somewhat in charge of patients in their work, they like to be dominated psychologically and sexually. Take charge on the date. Be highly confident at the least. Quite a few respond well to asshole game. They are very comfortable with the human body and sex. Surprisingly, nurses rarely ask for condom use; I suppose they are less afraid of germs than others and have a more realistic view of STDs apart from the public propaganda. Online is a great place to meet them, since they aren't exposed to attractive men in their daily life, many of them resort to online . They also respond well to cold approach. Nurses like to drink, but most avoid drugs because of drug testing on their jobs. They like manly men and are intolerant of any show of vulnerability of weakness. Minimal to no LMR will be encountered.
Waitress- hard to generalize here, since many women take this job for various reasons. The more career types fall into two categories, younger and older. The younger ones tend to be hard partying types that asshole game works well on. The older ones are often bitter, hardened and unpleasant after being stuck in a crappy job for many years. They are quite difficult to bang due to their anger and cynicism and have lost their looks from drinking, drug use and smoking. Best avoided.
Sales/marketing- Extroverted, bitchy and demanding with unrealistic expectations.They are very money oriented and status obsessed and are generally only interested in guys with a lot of money or who are very good looking. Shit tests come fast and furious. Aloof asshole works best. Often they are just plain obnoxious. Tend to be arrogant and full of themselves and condescending anytime they can get away with it. Sociopathic personality features pretty common. Not easy to bang unless they are in a super horny mood. Typically will try to make you wait to see what they can get out of you-fancy dinners, etc. Not worth the effort overall, unless you catch them in a horny mood. Act dickish and screen them hard to see if they seem DTF that night; if not, eject.
Secretary- Often feminine and accepting of male leadership. Average to above average intelligence. Cocky funny works fine. Will usually bang on the second date, so no need to push too hard.
Accounting/bookkeeper- They live up to their stereotype; usually rigid, boring, unimaginative, prudish with a low sex drive. Some of my worst online meetings have been with this type to the point that I won't even consider them anymore. Very few of them are physically attractive anyway. I recommend avoiding.
Strippers- They very largely fit their stereotype as well- damaged and fucked up beyond repair, though some can seem fairly normal for a while, the crazy will come out eventually.Vain and arrogant from all the male attention. Most are average intelligence at best, some of the girls in high end clubs are remarkably smart. Require either super tight game, very good looks either in face or muscularity, or being a drug dealer. These girls usually have daddy issues and respond very well to alpha asshole game. I understand a stripper is on most guys bucket list but having dated a couple for short periods I don't think they are worth the effort. You can find girls just as good looking at the mall in most cases and they don't have any special sex talents that I'm aware of. Plus, a lot of these girls have sociopathic features, criminal associates, craziness, STDs ,etc. You have been warned .
HR/office managers- Cuntery to Level 11. They rule over a little fiefdom where workers bow down to them, and think they are something special. The job attracts nasty, manipulative ,scheming bitches who take great pleasure in fucking people over. Take zero shit from her, run asshole game, push hard for the bang, and if you get it , hate fuck and move on. Not worth a second date.
Retail-crappy low paying jobs that attract a lot of different types. Can't generalize, just calibrate to the individual.
Clerks- Cubicle worker types. Again, hard to generalize, but tend to be rather boring and ordinary. Cocky funny game is fine, asshole is too much. Second or third date bang if you can hang in there.
Actress-my experience is limited to one of these, but she fit the stereotype. Unstable with an entire drawerfull of psychiatric meds in her nightstand. Flighty, dramatic and emotional.
Scientist-Smart, obviously and rather conservative and bookish. Overly analytical with more of a male mind, not too emotional. Not good SNL material typically. Cocky funny with a bit of beta and display of intelligence is good.
Government bureaucrats- I'm talking mid level here. Work in a heavily female environment and respond very well to masculinity. A bit of asshole game works well here. Take charge and don't take any shit. Make her feel like a woman and she will gladly fall in line.
I'm interested to hear other opinions on the above categories , plus experiences with the following which I haven't dealt with:
Physicians
Media
IT
Religious ministers
LEO
Chefs
Whatever else
I've banged girls from a wide variety of occupations and I'm going to give my observations and opinions derived from my personal experiences.
Bartender: I see a lot of guys on the forum asking how to game bartenders, I assume because they naturally have an interaction with them when they are out nightgaming. But bartenders are among the very toughest type of girls to bang when they are approached through their job. For whatever reason, what is really a menial service job has acquired cachet in the West at least, and bartenders tend to think they are the shit, especially if they are even semi-hot. I suppose it comes from being the center of attention and get a lot of supplication from male customers. Because it is a menial job in essence, bartenders tend to look down on their customers as an ego protection device. By trying to game her on the job, you are already in an inferior position in her mind. Overcoming this typically requires having strong game and social proof. Bartenders prefer guys who have an alpha persona, and are either good looking and somewhat jacked, or are the bad boy type, often drug dealers. Bartenders like drugs and partying, are shallow and of average intelligence. I have banged a number of them, and not a single one did I meet on the job. The approaches were all through social circle or online. Asshole game is effective; she's used to guys kissing her ass and craves to be treated like she is of no importance. Having good social connections in the party scene helps.
Lawyers- Among the most masculine of women mentally, though they can appear quite feminine.Look for the manjaw, though. Highly intelligent and status conscious, they are argumentative and competitive and will constantly challenge you. Due to the hypergamy instinct, often have a lot of trouble dating. Feels that almost no man is good enough for her and that men are intimidated by her, which is often true. They tend to fall at extreme ends of the spectrum; are either bookish prudes or aggressive hypersexuals. Best game is asshole with a lot of verbal sparring. Some of the over 35 ones are cougars who like much younger jacked guys they use as fuck toys; these can be found in large cities. In any case they are pump and dump or fuck buddy material only.
Teachers- One of my favorite occupations. The job attracts women who are feminine, nurturing and like children, and they are often sweet and pleasant. Their sex drive varies from normal to above average. Due to the feminisation of the educational system, teachers spend their days with other women or mostly betaish men. As a result , they are hungry for strong male companionship and respond eagerly to it. Confident and cocky funny works well, asshole is overkill usually, the one exception being early to mid twenties teachers who sometimes like it. For some reason, there is an inverse relationship between the age of the children they teach and their freakiness in their personal lives. The younger the children the teach, the wilder they are. I spent an afternoon this week banging a teacher who replied to my Craigslist ad; she can straight to a hotel room and we fucked for hours. She teaches elementary school. Don't ask teachers for nudes, they know they can be fired if they get onto the internet so better not to bring it up. The one this week sent nudes unasked and asked me for dick pics, which is atypical, but as I said she teaches elementary school. Teachers on vacation are a layup bang; just approach and run a bit of cocky funny and once you have her hooked glide on don't fuck it up.
Hairstylist- Vain, superficial, partying and not too intelligent, unless they are a salon owner. Often have a bitchy and arrogant personality. Don't bother trying to game them on the job, social circle or cold approach is best. Attracted to good looking, often jacked guys with dominant personalities and good social connections. Often a source themself of good social circle connection; several years ago I dated a salon owner and she had a lot of connections in her town, including many hot girls. Best game is extroverted social guy with an alpha , somewhat assholish persona. Avoid any hints of intellectuality. These girls are just about partying, substances and fucking. Very catty and love drama.
Artist- I find artsy girls very attractive, though they can be maddening to deal with. Flaky, emotional, feminine, pretentious, often with diagnosable mental illnesses, they can be extremely charming and really hook you. Often blow hot and cold; they can disappear for days or weeks and then come back and be all over you. Never believe what they say, they themselves don't know what they think. BPD, histrionic disorder, and manic depression is fairly common, as is drug use. Often present as a sweet, naive ingenue but don't be fooled, they are extremely manipulative. Often drawn to guys with an air of romantic mysteriousness or troubled bad boys. They appreciate intelligence and good taste in a man. They are experts at collecting a phalanx of beta orbiters who serve at their whim, so don't try to be her buddy, take charge on dates and escalate. Her orbiters will try to cockblock you, so be prepared. If they are gay, which some will be, get them to like you and they will take your side. These girls are often very sexual and freaky, and enjoy BDSM at a high rate.
Housekeeper- Here I mean hotel maids, cleaning service workers, and the like. They are simple, unsophisticated, and usually below average intelligence. Dress down, working class style, and take them to a dive bar for a beer. Use simple humor and run direct game with lots of kino. Less is more with them. Sex is a matter of fact natural function in their life, so get them a bit worked up and the bang is pretty easy. Make good fuck buddies.
Corporate exec/entrepreneur- Some similarity to lawyers, though less obnoxious. Somewhat masculine in their dating and sex lives, if they want to fuck they will be fairly direct about it. Cold approach works very well on them; they appreciate a man being aggressive. Quite a few of my cold approach SNLs have been this type. They are also far more likely to cold approach you than other types of women. Cocky funny works well, though be prepared for some heavy shit testing which you should combat with aloof asshole responses, which is what they are looking for. They like to be discreet on their home turf, but go crazy on vacation, so calibrate your kino accordingly. They don't play girl games too much; once they are down for it you can take them to the bang venue with minimal to no pretext.No LMR at all. Because they are in charge in their work life, they enjoy being submissive in bed, so feel free to ramp up the dominance and roughness even on the first bang. I've had this type tell me to slap them, put my hand on their throat, drop to their knees and deepthroat me, tell me to use them however I want within hours of first meeting them.
Blue collar workers- Factory workers, truckdrivers, construction, warehouse, trades, etc. The most masculine of all women in their sexual behavior, I'm assuming due to higher than normal T levels. I've met these women online and had them invite me straight to their house for sex within 30 minutes of arrival , then kick me out. Just like a dude. That's not the norm though, but it is a fact that direct game works best on them. Just approach and chat them up in a joking way. They like simple fun such as drinking and dancing in a bar. Dress down. Don't show any sign of intellectuality or education. Keep it direct, fun and kino a lot. Definitely go for sex the first time.
Nurse- Another of my favorite categories. Nurses are feminine and sexual. They have to deal with catty nurses and female administrators all day and crave male attention. Probably because they are somewhat in charge of patients in their work, they like to be dominated psychologically and sexually. Take charge on the date. Be highly confident at the least. Quite a few respond well to asshole game. They are very comfortable with the human body and sex. Surprisingly, nurses rarely ask for condom use; I suppose they are less afraid of germs than others and have a more realistic view of STDs apart from the public propaganda. Online is a great place to meet them, since they aren't exposed to attractive men in their daily life, many of them resort to online . They also respond well to cold approach. Nurses like to drink, but most avoid drugs because of drug testing on their jobs. They like manly men and are intolerant of any show of vulnerability of weakness. Minimal to no LMR will be encountered.
Waitress- hard to generalize here, since many women take this job for various reasons. The more career types fall into two categories, younger and older. The younger ones tend to be hard partying types that asshole game works well on. The older ones are often bitter, hardened and unpleasant after being stuck in a crappy job for many years. They are quite difficult to bang due to their anger and cynicism and have lost their looks from drinking, drug use and smoking. Best avoided.
Sales/marketing- Extroverted, bitchy and demanding with unrealistic expectations.They are very money oriented and status obsessed and are generally only interested in guys with a lot of money or who are very good looking. Shit tests come fast and furious. Aloof asshole works best. Often they are just plain obnoxious. Tend to be arrogant and full of themselves and condescending anytime they can get away with it. Sociopathic personality features pretty common. Not easy to bang unless they are in a super horny mood. Typically will try to make you wait to see what they can get out of you-fancy dinners, etc. Not worth the effort overall, unless you catch them in a horny mood. Act dickish and screen them hard to see if they seem DTF that night; if not, eject.
Secretary- Often feminine and accepting of male leadership. Average to above average intelligence. Cocky funny works fine. Will usually bang on the second date, so no need to push too hard.
Accounting/bookkeeper- They live up to their stereotype; usually rigid, boring, unimaginative, prudish with a low sex drive. Some of my worst online meetings have been with this type to the point that I won't even consider them anymore. Very few of them are physically attractive anyway. I recommend avoiding.
Strippers- They very largely fit their stereotype as well- damaged and fucked up beyond repair, though some can seem fairly normal for a while, the crazy will come out eventually.Vain and arrogant from all the male attention. Most are average intelligence at best, some of the girls in high end clubs are remarkably smart. Require either super tight game, very good looks either in face or muscularity, or being a drug dealer. These girls usually have daddy issues and respond very well to alpha asshole game. I understand a stripper is on most guys bucket list but having dated a couple for short periods I don't think they are worth the effort. You can find girls just as good looking at the mall in most cases and they don't have any special sex talents that I'm aware of. Plus, a lot of these girls have sociopathic features, criminal associates, craziness, STDs ,etc. You have been warned .
HR/office managers- Cuntery to Level 11. They rule over a little fiefdom where workers bow down to them, and think they are something special. The job attracts nasty, manipulative ,scheming bitches who take great pleasure in fucking people over. Take zero shit from her, run asshole game, push hard for the bang, and if you get it , hate fuck and move on. Not worth a second date.
Retail-crappy low paying jobs that attract a lot of different types. Can't generalize, just calibrate to the individual.
Clerks- Cubicle worker types. Again, hard to generalize, but tend to be rather boring and ordinary. Cocky funny game is fine, asshole is too much. Second or third date bang if you can hang in there.
Actress-my experience is limited to one of these, but she fit the stereotype. Unstable with an entire drawerfull of psychiatric meds in her nightstand. Flighty, dramatic and emotional.
Scientist-Smart, obviously and rather conservative and bookish. Overly analytical with more of a male mind, not too emotional. Not good SNL material typically. Cocky funny with a bit of beta and display of intelligence is good.
Government bureaucrats- I'm talking mid level here. Work in a heavily female environment and respond very well to masculinity. A bit of asshole game works well here. Take charge and don't take any shit. Make her feel like a woman and she will gladly fall in line.
I'm interested to hear other opinions on the above categories , plus experiences with the following which I haven't dealt with:
Physicians
Media
IT
Religious ministers
LEO
Chefs
Whatever else
"If anything's gonna happen, it's gonna happen out there!- Captain Ron