Sorry Quintus, but there's a reason many rightists disagree with you:
Minimum wages are a proven failure that only encourages illegal immigration or outsourcing labor to countries with no minimum wages. The only way to enact minimum wages is also to impose tariffs against countries that have lower wages, which tends to slow down overall trade. I'm not opposed to tariffs and minimum wages but they must be done together or not at all.
Child labor was always around before industrialization, the children worked on farms.
Social security is going bankrupt, workman's comp will also go away when there's no more jobs in the USA.
Hasn't changed, the top 3 banks in America own us all
Fewer people use healthcare today than ever before. Even when people are "insured" they still avoid going to the doctor because Obamacare has risen prices to astronomical levels:
http://www.nj.com/healthfit/index.ssf/20...rance.html
These last three are actually good when done right and aren't massive overreaches of government power.
Both were trash presidents, especially FDR. Populists, power hungry madmen, and complete liars. All of the things you wanted would have been done without those imperialists taking power and destroying the Constitution.
Government has a responsibility to provide for it's citizens? Now we have the worst nanny state full of fat, single-moms, more unemployed since the Great Depression, and costs of living that are outpacing wages due to extreme inflation. Men dropping out of society because there's no point to trying, and women with massive egos who never suffer any consequences due to the daddy state.
The government cannot provide for it's citizens without destroying civic virtue or the economy. Has been a proven failure everywhere it's tried, the only thing the government can do is protect it's people and make sure they aren't being taken advantage of. The government will never do anything else effectively and it should be left to the free market.
If the government is to provide welfare at all, it should be given to married couples plus maybe a basic guaranteed income so people never starve. Anything else more ambitious will lead to market inefficiencies that lead to long-term ruin.
As for Jim Webb:
http://www.ontheissues.org/International...ration.htm
At least he wants to secure the boarder, but he won't send current illegals back. He wants to enact tariffs with countries like China that exploit their labor, which is good. He wants higher minimum wages which are a joke but at least can work somewhat with tariffs to prevent industry from offshoring.
Also he wants English as the official language.
Overall Jim Webb is the least bad of the democratic candidates and if I can support him in the primaries I will. That said, I prefer guys like Rand Paul much more.
Quote: (12-11-2014 01:50 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:
One of the more depressing features of the manosphere is its conflation of right-wing, big business talking points with what is supposedly "masculine" and "good."
Big business, right-wing propaganda has convinced most young guys that any type of progressive, enlightened legislation is somehow unconstitutional, pussified, or conspiratorial.
It's almost as if these guys want to turn back to clock to what America was like in the early 1900s, when you had:
* Industrialized slave labor with no minimum wages
Minimum wages are a proven failure that only encourages illegal immigration or outsourcing labor to countries with no minimum wages. The only way to enact minimum wages is also to impose tariffs against countries that have lower wages, which tends to slow down overall trade. I'm not opposed to tariffs and minimum wages but they must be done together or not at all.
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* Child labor
Child labor was always around before industrialization, the children worked on farms.
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* No social security or workmen's compensation
Social security is going bankrupt, workman's comp will also go away when there's no more jobs in the USA.
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* Total domination of the country by a handful of big corporations
Hasn't changed, the top 3 banks in America own us all
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* No health care
Fewer people use healthcare today than ever before. Even when people are "insured" they still avoid going to the doctor because Obamacare has risen prices to astronomical levels:
http://www.nj.com/healthfit/index.ssf/20...rance.html
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* Exploitation of natural resources and lands by corporations for their own profit.
* Unregulated pollution
* No labeling of food products or safety requirements
These last three are actually good when done right and aren't massive overreaches of government power.
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And it just goes on and on.
If it had not been for Teddy Roosevelt, none of the things that you guys take for granted would be here. Same thing for Franklin Roosevelt.
Both were trash presidents, especially FDR. Populists, power hungry madmen, and complete liars. All of the things you wanted would have been done without those imperialists taking power and destroying the Constitution.
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And back in the early 1900s, the big money interests made the same threadbare arguments they make today: "It's unconstitutional!" or "It's socialism"! or "It's the end of life as we know it!"
Teddy Roosevelt had no patience for such talk. The constitution was created for the people, not the other way around. Fundamental fairness and justice is what should be the proper concern of the government. The "free market" is mostly a sham where the deck is stacked against the little guy. Without a strong government to keep business greed in check, we would have revolutions and social disorder.
Government has a minimum responsibility to provide for the welfare and health of its citizens. It's that simple.
Government has a responsibility to provide for it's citizens? Now we have the worst nanny state full of fat, single-moms, more unemployed since the Great Depression, and costs of living that are outpacing wages due to extreme inflation. Men dropping out of society because there's no point to trying, and women with massive egos who never suffer any consequences due to the daddy state.
The government cannot provide for it's citizens without destroying civic virtue or the economy. Has been a proven failure everywhere it's tried, the only thing the government can do is protect it's people and make sure they aren't being taken advantage of. The government will never do anything else effectively and it should be left to the free market.
If the government is to provide welfare at all, it should be given to married couples plus maybe a basic guaranteed income so people never starve. Anything else more ambitious will lead to market inefficiencies that lead to long-term ruin.
As for Jim Webb:
http://www.ontheissues.org/International...ration.htm
At least he wants to secure the boarder, but he won't send current illegals back. He wants to enact tariffs with countries like China that exploit their labor, which is good. He wants higher minimum wages which are a joke but at least can work somewhat with tariffs to prevent industry from offshoring.
Also he wants English as the official language.
Overall Jim Webb is the least bad of the democratic candidates and if I can support him in the primaries I will. That said, I prefer guys like Rand Paul much more.
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