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Ideal Government&State?
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Ideal Government&State?

Quote: (11-28-2014 10:23 AM)Sp5 Wrote:  

Quote: (11-28-2014 08:16 AM)The Reactionary Tree Wrote:  

Diffused power doesnt protect shit. Look at every Western democracy in the world to see that it doesnt. Europe and the USA are going to Hell in a hand basket. Liberties are dwindling away and totalitarianism is rising. This is the nature of democracy - to eat itself. Democracy is the worst form of government.

I'd rather have a benevolent dictatorship like Hong Kong, Dubai, Abu Dhabi, or Singapore or actual monarchy like Monaco or Lichtenstein than to live under a demotist government which will slowly but surely destroy itself. As to people wanting elections in HK or Singapore, people often want things. They want more than can be afforded. That's why democracies bankrupt themselves. Look at the USSR, EU and the USA. All are governments for "the people." All are tyrannical to certain degrees and all are (or already have) gone bankrupt. They have higher time preferences. The people want the gimmedats. The people are like children. Look at your average voter - they're fucking retarded. I don't care what the people want because they often want stupid shit. Would you let a child make the decisions in a family? No. Then why would you let a bunch of uneducated people attempt to govern themselves?

And no, not every neoreactionary imagines themselves as king. Some of us just want to live in places that are economically free and Marxist free.

Look at the standards of living of those places I listed - they're high. Those are nice places. A true dictatorship would never allow for that level of economic freedom - see North Korea. In Singapore, I may not be able to chew gum, vote, or sodomize faggots, but at least my taxes will be low and there will be economic opportunities available to me to provide for myself and my family.

That is the purpose of government - to provide law & order to foster the growth of civilization and liberty (freedom to be economically independent, not to be degenerates).

So we have to destroy freedom in order to save freedom? Totalitarian Dubai is better because you say it's becoming totalitarian in America?

C'mon, be serious. Your examples are all tiny states or petro-sheikhdoms and not even what you say they are. Let's try a system that is practical for a large state with a population of millions.

Singapore does have elections, it's just that the 75% Chinese majority wants the same party all the time and less freedom than people in the West would want. They could change the system if they wanted.

Monaco and Lichtenstein are constitutional monarchies with elected legislatures. Lichtenstein is MORE democratic than other places, they have the right to pass laws by referendum and towns can even secede by vote. So not a good example.

All of your examples are subsidized by their neighbors in some way (no militaries, transportation infrastructure) or have oil. It's easy to be a tax haven if you don't have a military or have oil and gas. Even so, Dubai did go bankrupt, it was bailed out by Abu Dhabi. I predict Dubai will be an apocalyptic ruin in 50 years or less.

Unless you're the King or the dictator, liberal democracies are better for men. Why? You retain the right to say the King, President or Prime Minister sucks. You can tell the police to fuck off on your doorstep unless they have a warrant. You can get organized and run for office yourself, or you can make it so your officials have to listen to you.

There's something inherently feminine and submissive about being a subject of an absolute monarchy or dictatorship. That's why females are more authoritarian than males, they like to submit.

Actually the opposite is true. Democracy is inherently feminine. Radical Traditionalist Julius Evola asserted this. A king is a patriarch to his people much like a father is head of the household. To grant suffrage to everyone is the equivalence of letting women & children run a household.

"both democracy and socialism ratify the shift from the masculine to the feminine and from the spiritual to the material and the promiscuous..." - Julius Evola

As for freedom, what is freedom? Democracy is not freedom. It is Communism Lite. Where 51% of the people vote to plunder the resources and strip the rights away of the other 49%. Socialism and democracy go together like PB&J. Voting does not equate to freedom, especially not since it is ultimately voting to surrender your rights or sovereignty to a bureaucrat thousands of miles away.

The tax rate in Singapore is 15%. In the US, with local, state & federal, its over 50% depending on the area you live in & your level of income. This is freedom? Guns being confiscated is freedom? States rights being nulled by the SCOTUS is freedom? Sure you have freedom of speech, just as long as it doesnt offend Homeland Security, the NSA or your employer. What good is freedom of speech if exercising it means you are fired from your job and exiled from society? or treated as an enemy of the state?

As for the size of the city-states, my belief is that all giant countries should be dissolved into thousands of city-states. We should be more particular with whom we associate with. Local governance is best. We should not become more universalist and have giant unions of nations like the EU where the sovereignty of each nation is violated by a bureaucracy. We most certainly must not have one world government either.

Monarchies were not these totalitarian states that you seem to think they are. Do you honestly believe that the Renaissance or Enlightenment periods would have happened under totalitarian dictatorship?

Also, more people have been killed under demotist governments than under any king. Fascism, Communism, Nazism, Democratic Socialism, etc. Governments for the people and by the people sure love to kill a shit ton of people. Guillotines, gallows, gas chambers, Gitmo, and gulags... oh how I love a government for the people.

I believe in exit over voice. You should not have the right to vote and if you dont like it, then you can leave.

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