Quote: (11-21-2011 10:06 AM)Samseau Wrote:
I see, you're a Day Game man. I'm just getting into Day Game. Night game produces lots of sex, but relationships of substance tend not to happen there because of the stigma girls associate with meeting men at night.
I prefer meeting women outside bars/clubs simply because they match what I'm looking for much more often in terms of their attitude towards life and overall character attributes.
Hot women are everywhere. There are lots of women who are willing to have fast sex who you can meet during the day. Similarly, plenty of women are perfectly willing to have relationships with guys they meet at night. The real question for me is - Is this the kind of woman who I really want to be with, other than the fact that she is hot? What else does she bring to the table?
To put your comment a bit differently - It could also be possible that relationships of substance tend not to happen there because the GIRLS you meet at night aren't the kind of girls you want relationships with. Ever heard someone say you shouldn't try to wife up a hoe?
I'm not saying that way of looking at it is right or truth. Simply another way of looking at it.
Quote: (11-21-2011 10:06 AM)Samseau Wrote:
I can see why not touching works for you. Approaching girls during the day starts a different dynamic that doesn't rely on touching at all. Conversely, for night game, not touching is the kiss of death to a seduction.
Actually, to provide counter-examples to that - I have quite successfully had sex with women at clubs without ever initiating touch. In my experience, the dynamic remains the same, even with girls in clubs: If she wants you to like her more, she will touch you, escalate touch and eventually more, provided you refrain from touching her of course.
I've had hot women who were literally crawling on me, forcing themselves between my legs, running their hands along my neck/back, 30 minutes after meeting me in a club all WITHOUT me ever initiating touch and generally holding back my touch even while they touched me. No VIP, no rich guy/famous guy game. Simply me, knowing how to find favorable situations, making her laugh, not touching her.
It might be useful to keep in mind that I get ignored by a very large number of women. But I meet enough women that I am able to find situations (like mentioned above) at a much higher rate with women who really turn me on and make me happy than many guys, while still getting ignored by a good number of women and never progressing things with women who aren't into me from the start.
I do not do what I do with women with whom there is no mutual attraction from the get-go. Luckily, it is completely unnecessary given my goals (fun, long, open, sex-filled relationships with very attractive, high value women).
Quote: (11-21-2011 10:06 AM)Samseau Wrote:
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I spend about an hour a day approaching 30 attractive women a day. Train stations, streets, shopping malls, etc.
What kind of opener's do you use?
"Hello. What's your name?"
"Hi. How are you?"
"Hey. How ya doin?"
"Excuse me. Hello."
Or some variation of those.
In my experience, they work very well for my goals.
'Hello' was invented for a reason.
Quote: (11-21-2011 10:06 AM)Samseau Wrote:
And an hour a day? You've must have found the best spots around town to rack up 30 approaches on beautiful women in such a short time.
Haha, yes.
It certainly didn't start out as an hour a day, though.
Lots of trial and error.
It's not exactly 60 everyday or anything.
These days it tends to range somewhere between 45 - 75 minutes.
So the average is about 60 minutes.
You learn pretty quick exactly where NOT to go when you have to spend 4 hours doing it because you chose a spot that doesn't have an abundance of attractive women (and because you mentally committed yourself to doing it anyways). I avoid those places like the plague now, when it comes to meeting women. The good news is - We learn!
Quote: (11-21-2011 10:06 AM)Samseau Wrote:
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I don't consider what I do to be better than other guys game.
Tight game is getting girls to sleep or fall in love with you.
Cool.
Just curious - How about if they already liked you a whole lot from the beginning and you just make it easier for them to keep falling in love with you by not messing things up?