Quote: (03-29-2013 03:22 PM)speakeasy Wrote:
Looks like the first batch of women aren't even able to endure the training:
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/10/...ourse?lite
Political correctness can't overcome nature.
One honest female in the military is willing to tell the truth :
Actually I commented on this on another blog. None have made it through Combat Infantry Officers Training in Quantico. This is the second attempt. There were two others in the prior class. And two in this class. 3 washed out in first week, 1 lasted into the second week but had to quit because of injury. The obstacle course seems to be the killer. Here are photos of it.
http://www.jpshouse.com/usmc.htm
The report I read said 1 out of 4 entrants wash out. But that means 3 out of 4 actually get through it. And in my personal opinion, the course is doable for most men that can curl about 60 pounds, military press 85 pounds, aren't fat such that their upper body strength is low relative to their overall weight. It is probably easier if you are 5'10 or above and weigh less than 200 pounds. Like ideal would be 5"10 175.
12 guys washed out out of 120. So more than 90% make it through the first week. And I bet 4 or 5 of those 12 men got injured, bad sprains, broken ankle. And I think some just say "Screw this". And opt for a desk job instead of infantry. You need to be in infantry at some point in your career in the Marines to be a general or climb up in rank. So some go just because they think they need to, then change their mind when they get there.
I was in the Marines and I never thought any training I ever did was so difficult. If you ever played high school football, the Marines are easier, just longer days.
Here is another photo of the obstacle course.
http://www.mca-marines.org/mcaToday/imag...winner.gif
You can see the guys in the photo are older. And that course is one of many on Quantico. And all follow the same spec, same layout. Obviously it is tradition among Marine officers. The guys in the photo come back to run it for workouts. And to let younger Marines know they can still run it.
The article I read said that there 5 more women that will attend the next course in the summer. And I am sure that they are going over to those courses before hand with coaches to try to teach them to get through it and not freak when they are faced with it and the men are moving through it with no issue and people are cheering, instructors are screaming, and the stopwatch is on.
And when a woman finally gets through even the obstacle course and makes it even into week 2, it will be all over the news, Danica Patrick style. Never mind that in the same time frame that 9 others washed out, 225 men made it through the whole course.
We'll see if it gets dumbed down. The Marines are real slow about stuff like that but when Congress puts pressure on them then it changes things. Before I went to boot camp in 1973, drill instructors used to hit recruits. Ermy punched Joker in the stomach in Full Metal Jacket. My neighbor went through in 1971 and he said they did it then. But some trials happened and charges were leveled and I never saw anything like that. And the older guys talked about how soft I had it. My days were 5am to 9pm 7 days a week. I heard they cut it down to 6 pm and put TV in the barracks after I got out. I was astounded. Fucking TV? And every successive era of the Marines all claims how soft it was getting compared to the "Old Corps" when they went to boot camp or OCS. "I hear you pukes get room service and silk pajamas in your boot camp now" would be something older Marines say to younger ones.
In a way, I feel like a member of the Miami Dolphins that had an undefeated season all the way through the super bowl. And every time the final team in a season gets beat and doesn't threaten their record, they all celebrate. So when I see news like this that women wash out and none get through, I feel the same way. I so want them all to fail.