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Russia - Whoremonger - 12-12-2010
Quote: (12-11-2010 01:43 PM)Chaz Wrote:
Whoremonger,
Can you talk about the women in Russia? I know some Russian women here in the U.S. who are pretty cool (and pretty hot).
Your handle, "Whoremonger," makes me wonder, though... were your women there pros or non-pros? (No offense meant by this -- I've been with a couple whores, too, in New Zealand, of all places!)
Can we discuss how it went in Russia, regarding where you met the girls, how the interactions went (did you have to speak Russian, or did they speak any English, etc.), etc., etc...
I hope it does not matter, but I am white and American. I would want to be there with at least one other person (of any race)
Have you been to the Ukraine? Can you compare Russia with Ukraine?
Nah, no offense taken. I run two websites where I charge escorts to advertise. It was a homage to my pimping. Have not done a hooker yet, Im saving that for when I get married
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I have been to Russia 6 times in the last 11 years, and I have also been to the Ukraine, although I have only been there twice. I had an interest in Russia outside the women, but they became the best reason to keep going back.
Language barrier is a huge problem and I speak terrible Russian. I can get by, but its not easy sometimes. I find that a lot of the younger women learn more than one language, and many speak German, Italian or Dutch too. So I just hope that they can speak English or Dutch. But many women do learn English so you almost always find them.
Its not as easy to score as it used to be. Russian women are very traditional in that they expect men to pay for everything. Which is why many view them as gold diggers. 10 years ago there were very few Russian men who had a foreigners sort of purchasing power. Thats not the case anymore, and you can bet your ass that they have more options these days.
The Ukraine at the moment I think is where Russia was 10-15 years ago. Not an easy place to travel though and I found it less enjoyable as a destination than Russia, although for pussy alone its probably the best place in the world for European women.
Anyone can go to Russia. If you are black or you look Georgian though, you could run into a problem or two if you are going there to mack it up. Its not that all women will have an issue with you, its that a few may, and they end up telling their thug friends who have an excuse to take advantage of the situation. Going there as a tourist with your wits about you is no problem at all, going there for the poon alone is asking for trouble purely because you have the chance to offend.
If you have not been there before, stick to the major capitals like Moscow and St Petersburg. Make sure you can speak some basic russian so you can at least buy a train ticket or order a beer. If you looking to hook up, hit their dating sites like Mamba.ru and look for chicks who speak English. Most will end up being your tour guide of sorts and if you dont lay them they end up introducing you to their friends who you end up dicking.
They seem cold, but once they get to know you they are very hospitable people. Try to do some research on their customs beforehand. They are the sort who will respond with a small gift in turn, only for you to find out later on that they did not eat for two days so they could afford it.
Russia - Lika - 12-12-2010
Quote: (12-11-2010 02:00 AM)Whoremonger Wrote:
If you are black, Russia is a dangerous place. No different to being white in Ghana. Our liberal views may not agree with that mentality, but we need to accept it for what it is and understand that people are a product of their environment too. It transcends race even. Can a Jew go to Iran for a bit of fun? Can a woman enjoy her time in Qatar?
Well I know you're trying to make a general point and I don't want to feed the feud but I have been to Ghana and many other African countries.
I am white and have had a great time in Ghana. It's one of the easiest country I have ever been to get laid and it's not dangerous compared to other countries like Liberia or Nigeria.
So I understand your point and I think it's actually very interesting to talk about races and the different perceptions people will have according to the country. One should just pick the right examples
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Russia - Whoremonger - 12-12-2010
Quote: (12-11-2010 05:00 PM)speakeasy Wrote:
Quote: (12-11-2010 05:03 AM)Whoremonger Wrote:
My post was specific to Speakeasy, who is speaking out of his ass. Russia is not a death trap for black men, its a tough place to go though if you are looking for pussy only and you happen to be black. It is high risk for that, but its a safe place to go if you are not going for that purpose only. Same would go for a white guy in Nigeria. You can go there, you just have to be extra careful and not act as if its your backyard. This is the reality of the world we live in and people need to get on with the god damned job of it instead of bitching about it
I don't know what you're calling me out for. First off, I have no interest in Russia. I have no intention of ever stepping foot in that country. When the topic of race and Russia comes up, yeah I chime in to warn other black dudes about going there and that there is a huge problem of racial violence in Russia. Some people just don't know that and I feel obligated to point it out for their own safety. I'm not complaining just to complain. I don't need to have been there to know it's a dangerous fucking place for black people. Just like I don't need to go to Calcutta to know it's a filthy shithole. Anyone simply paying attention knows that. One only need to go to youtube and type in "racism in Russia" and you'll see an endless stream of news videos about minorities being beaten and killed in the streets of Moscow and St. Petersburg while onlookers watch. Awhile back I'd read in the news that a black American soldier working for the US embassy who was shopping in an outdoor market and was jumped by skinheads and beaten within an inch of his life. Nobody even tried to help him. I guess he was just there to hit on the women too right?
And btw, lots of whites travel to Africa and have no problems. In fact the whites I know that have traveled in Africa have told me no stories of ill treatment whatsoever. Naughty Nomad went and fucked his way across Africa and I don't remember him ever saying he was attacked by black men for doing it. There is no black equivalent of the skinheads anywhere in Africa that goes around looking specifically for white people to stomp to death in the streets. So don't even try to compare being white in Ghana to being black in Russia.
Dude, lots of folks who are not white travel to Russia and have no problems either. Naughty Nomad went through Somalia FFS, he is not your normal traveler and its a bit silly to use him as an example. As for the nonsense about Whites not being targetted in Africa, that is the biggest load of rubbish out. You may know people who went there on holiday, I lived and grew up there. I am a white African, and I can tell you now the level of violence is off the chain. There are parts where its OK, but there are even more that are no go zones.
Russia is not some death trap for black travelers, but it becomes very high risk if the only reason for your trip is pussy. Just the way it is.
Question for you though. Have you been anywhere outside the USA yet? Because I am seeing a lot of hearsay from you here.
Oh, and on a side note,
http://www.google.com.au/#hl=en&expIds=1...a431732e95
http://www.rferl.org/content/In_Serbia_R...45939.html
Racism is everywhere dude. EVERYWHERE. I have lived the majority of my life as a minority and I have been on the end of it too. I have seen the devastation it leads to too. Im no stranger to it. I just dont buy into the "woe is me" bullshit anymore. White, black, yellow, olive brown. Accept and adapt or move along. Those are pretty much what our choices in life are.
Russia - Whoremonger - 12-12-2010
Quote: (12-12-2010 06:30 AM)Lika Wrote:
Quote: (12-11-2010 02:00 AM)Whoremonger Wrote:
If you are black, Russia is a dangerous place. No different to being white in Ghana. Our liberal views may not agree with that mentality, but we need to accept it for what it is and understand that people are a product of their environment too. It transcends race even. Can a Jew go to Iran for a bit of fun? Can a woman enjoy her time in Qatar?
Well I know you're trying to make a general point and I don't want to feed the feud but I have been to Ghana and many other African countries.
I am white and have had a great time in Ghana. It's one of the easiest country I have ever been to get laid and it's not dangerous compared to other countries like Liberia or Nigeria.
So I understand your point and I think it's actually very interesting to talk about races and the different perceptions people will have according to the country. One should just pick the right examples
Further west you go, worse it gets. Accra may be ok, push closer to Ivory Coast and its a different story. Just like Moscow would be fine for Nequisha and Jermaine, Samara is going to be a different story.
Any country where the women are dirt poor is going to result in plenty of sexy time when you flashing dollars. You could be pink and look like the elephant man and I am sure they will still be cuing up to suck your dick.
Does not mean its safe to go there though dude. Poverty drives crime and you as a tourist are a target too.
Russia - fman - 12-12-2010
Quote: (12-12-2010 06:03 AM)Whoremonger Wrote:
Quote: (12-11-2010 01:43 PM)Chaz Wrote:
Whoremonger,
Can you talk about the women in Russia? I know some Russian women here in the U.S. who are pretty cool (and pretty hot).
Your handle, "Whoremonger," makes me wonder, though... were your women there pros or non-pros? (No offense meant by this -- I've been with a couple whores, too, in New Zealand, of all places!)
Can we discuss how it went in Russia, regarding where you met the girls, how the interactions went (did you have to speak Russian, or did they speak any English, etc.), etc., etc...
I hope it does not matter, but I am white and American. I would want to be there with at least one other person (of any race)
Have you been to the Ukraine? Can you compare Russia with Ukraine?
Nah, no offense taken. I run two websites where I charge escorts to advertise. It was a homage to my pimping. Have not done a hooker yet, Im saving that for when I get married
I have been to Russia 6 times in the last 11 years, and I have also been to the Ukraine, although I have only been there twice. I had an interest in Russia outside the women, but they became the best reason to keep going back.
Language barrier is a huge problem and I speak terrible Russian. I can get by, but its not easy sometimes. I find that a lot of the younger women learn more than one language, and many speak German, Italian or Dutch too. So I just hope that they can speak English or Dutch. But many women do learn English so you almost always find them.
Its not as easy to score as it used to be. Russian women are very traditional in that they expect men to pay for everything. Which is why many view them as gold diggers. 10 years ago there were very few Russian men who had a foreigners sort of purchasing power. Thats not the case anymore, and you can bet your ass that they have more options these days.
The Ukraine at the moment I think is where Russia was 10-15 years ago. Not an easy place to travel though and I found it less enjoyable as a destination than Russia, although for pussy alone its probably the best place in the world for European women.
Anyone can go to Russia. If you are black or you look Georgian though, you could run into a problem or two if you are going there to mack it up. Its not that all women will have an issue with you, its that a few may, and they end up telling their thug friends who have an excuse to take advantage of the situation. Going there as a tourist with your wits about you is no problem at all, going there for the poon alone is asking for trouble purely because you have the chance to offend.
If you have not been there before, stick to the major capitals like Moscow and St Petersburg. Make sure you can speak some basic russian so you can at least buy a train ticket or order a beer. If you looking to hook up, hit their dating sites like Mamba.ru and look for chicks who speak English. Most will end up being your tour guide of sorts and if you dont lay them they end up introducing you to their friends who you end up dicking.
They seem cold, but once they get to know you they are very hospitable people. Try to do some research on their customs beforehand. They are the sort who will respond with a small gift in turn, only for you to find out later on that they did not eat for two days so they could afford it.
Thats what I am talkig about. Excellent game on RUSSIA. I would not be afraid to go but would definatly take heed to those precautions.
Since the Ukraine doesn't require a visa for US citizens I would be very interested in going there this summer. And also since you say it is like Russia was 10-15 years ago. I was checking out the Mamba.ru website and see that you can also search Ukraine and other Soviet nations as well.
Russia - Whoremonger - 12-12-2010
To be honest, if its women alone you are going for, I would go to the Ukraine before I go to Russia these days. Russia has grown on me and I know people there now which makes it easier. If its Ukraine, I would go to the major capitals, that being Kiev and Odessa. Kiev is easier and there will be a few more english speakers, but they are tough to come by. Odessa is good for summer as its by the black sea, but English speaking women are impossible to find unless you arranged before hand.
Latvia and Lithuania are two other places worth checking out. Depending on how much time you have, consider working your way from Tallin in Estonia right the way through Latvia, Lithuania, Belarus, into the Ukraine through Kiev ending up in Odessa. Can all be done by train, same time zone and you will get to see and experience quite a bit if you up for it.
Russia - Lika - 12-12-2010
Quote: (12-12-2010 06:37 AM)Whoremonger Wrote:
Further west you go, worse it gets. Accra may be ok, push closer to Ivory Coast and its a different story.
I did, I traveled the whole country by car from the Northern border to Accra and then west to Takoradi.
Anyways, I'm not saying that Ghana cannot be dangerous. Just that it's much safer than many other African countries and that I didn't feel, as a white man, any problem to run day game on non-pro student type chicks in the streets, or anywhere for that matter.
Quote: (12-12-2010 06:37 AM)Whoremonger Wrote:
Any country where the women are dirt poor is going to result in plenty of sexy time when you flashing dollars.
Actually not...
In many countries or parts of a country, women would sometimes love to be with a foreigner whether for money/perceived status, exotic looks or else but they can't because their men make it very hard for them... Social pressure can be tough.
If I understand you correctly, this is what happens with black guys in Russia (or non Indian guys in India, for instance).
That's why it makes sense to discuss race issues with regards to different countries on a forum like this one. At least it's interesting to me
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Russia - Whoremonger - 12-12-2010
A rich black guy in Russia is still a rich guy in Russia, and a rich guy in Russia is going to be the kind of man "they want to create happy family with". A normal middle class tourist who happens to be black and is going there for nothing other than pussy is asking for trouble. Its not neo nazi east to west FFS, but there is an element of it in parts which is nazi like.
Those people fought off the nazi's and suffered the largest losses in world war 2. Millions died and civilian causalities were horrendous. That has had a large bearing on the psyche of the people. They are proud of their heritage and their country. Pro Hitler bullshit is not accepted there, but pro russian bullshit is. Which means that anyone who is not Russian or has no respect for Russia and its people is asking for trouble.
If you dont give a continental crap about the country, history, culture or people, and you are only there to flash your cash and try to pick up a few novelty fucks, you are going to offend people. Its bad enough their women have developed reputations for being the whores of foreigners when the going got tough. If you happen to be anything but white, and you are offending people, you are confirming their already small minded view on race and it leads to trouble. You make yourself a target.
Labeling an entire country a bunch of ignorant, racist bigots for that is a bit much if you ask me. People are a product of their environment too.
Russia - MiXX - 12-12-2010
I just started about 2 months ago learning Russian, the russian customs and even took a quick trip to DC with Rocco81 as my host to check out the well established Russian nightlife as sort of training grounds for my trip to Ukraine.
I must admit that from what I have seen so far, Russian women are 10x more status/wealth aware than any woman I have ever seen - more so than even latinas. I even had a woman who was an average 6 (but with a decent body) as we were dancing tell me "Hey, I need to have my $2,000USD purse next to me while we dance" wtf?? - It seems that even the women must announce their "wealth". Not sure if she was hoping that I would go running around and tell my friends that she had a 2KUSD purse, I personally could care less, but I wonder if 50% of the people that yell "I'm rich", are actually meaning "I'm irresponsible with money to hide my insecurities and my credit cards are now maxed out".
When I would ask the ones who kept yelling I'm rich, what business they run for a living, I never got a clear answer from anyone.
I then saw a girl about a 8 in looks, completely start talking to an average looking guy who for some reason was rumored to be "filthy rich" (at least that was the word spread around in the social circle of friends we were with), she was all over him as my club buddy who knew everyone in there described his rich "status"...I asked him, how do you know heis truly rich? It seems that word of mouth in your social circle that you are rich is enough for women to want to fuck you. You can totally be bullshitting I guess.
I did see one African looking guy in the VIP booth and he was getting attention from women, but because he seemed like a fun guy having a great time, and he was with other Russians.
@whoremonger. -- Thanks for the tip on taking the train from Lithuanian to Ukraine, I think I will do that.
Mixx
Russia - MiXX - 12-12-2010
Quote: (12-12-2010 08:31 AM)Whoremonger Wrote:
Depending on how much time you have, consider working your way from Tallin in Estonia right the way through Latvia, Lithuania, Belarus, into the Ukraine through Kiev ending up in Odessa. Can all be done by train, same time zone and you will get to see and experience quite a bit if you up for it.
I have one month available in Lat April/May 2011. However, the visa req's for US citizens are enforced in Belarus. So not sure how I can train it through Belarus to get to Ukraine from Estonia with a path of least resistance.
Can you break down this experience better if you hold only a US passport?
Mixx
Russia - Luckystar - 12-12-2010
Quote: (12-12-2010 06:37 AM)Whoremonger Wrote:
Quote: (12-12-2010 06:30 AM)Lika Wrote:
Quote: (12-11-2010 02:00 AM)Whoremonger Wrote:
If you are black, Russia is a dangerous place. No different to being white in Ghana. Our liberal views may not agree with that mentality, but we need to accept it for what it is and understand that people are a product of their environment too. It transcends race even. Can a Jew go to Iran for a bit of fun? Can a woman enjoy her time in Qatar?
Well I know you're trying to make a general point and I don't want to feed the feud but I have been to Ghana and many other African countries.
I am white and have had a great time in Ghana. It's one of the easiest country I have ever been to get laid and it's not dangerous compared to other countries like Liberia or Nigeria.
So I understand your point and I think it's actually very interesting to talk about races and the different perceptions people will have according to the country. One should just pick the right examples
Further west you go, worse it gets. Accra may be ok, push closer to Ivory Coast and its a different story. Just like Moscow would be fine for Nequisha and Jermaine, Samara is going to be a different story.
Any country where the women are dirt poor is going to result in plenty of sexy time when you flashing dollars. You could be pink and look like the elephant man and I am sure they will still be cuing up to suck your dick.
Does not mean its safe to go there though dude. Poverty drives crime and you as a tourist are a target too.
Whoremonger,
Here is my Russian experience.
I ve been to Russia 3 times between 05 and 07. I went to St.Petersburg and Moscow. The trips were successful for me as I scored a handful of girls. I have quite a few Russian friends and I was lucky enough to roll with some locals they put me in touch with. The social proofing was essential for me because I did not know Russian and I am not white. Most of my success was at the university and at bars. The clubs were major failures for me because it seemed you really needed to have bank behind you and language was a barrier. All in all, I had some very memorable experiences (particularly with two sexy sisters - Masha and Dasha).
Despite my success, I am done with Russia. There were no confrontations. In fact, I would say that physical danger or overt racism is not imminent in Russia. It is a very real concern, but not imminent. My trip was simply not enjoyable because of a consistent xenophobic undertone.
Over the years of friendship I ve had with a few Russian friends back at home, I ve learnt there is a high level of racism embedded within Russians. Higher than other group - maybe, maybe not. But what I ve learnt is that there is a much much higher level of denial amongst local Russians. They will use derogatory words, point whisper gawk laugh, mock - they are oblivious to the messages they send in their basic interactions. It's clear what is embedded, there is no need to interpret (ie. its not in my head). They either have racist views or they are not thinking about how they are acting. In the end racism is denied - it was just good humour and of course the colored man is just being too sensitive. This type of thing doesnt bother me, but it becomes a real tired story. After 3 trips, I think I can objectively associate racism with Russia. I ve invested enough time, money, and goodwill to say that.
My recommendation if you are interested in Russian girls:
If you are white or have lots of cash - go and you will have a good time. Russian girls are fabulously attractive. I encourage everyone to have an experience with a Russian girl. It will inevitably be a memorable story.
If you are not white - its up to you but I would pass. I recommend you go to the Ukraine or some other FSU country where there are less racial undertones and your money might take you farther (I ve never been to any of these places but I hear good things about them, especially Kazakhstan). Moscow is very very expensive.
Russia - subutai - 12-12-2010
An alternative to going to Russia are the Baltics which are filled with Russian girls.
And due to being relegated to 2nd class citizen status, Russians in the Baltics are on the wrong end of the socioeconomic matrix, thus learning & preferring ENGLISH (yes, English) to the native language of Estonian/Latvian/Lithuanian.
I even knew a Russian girl who was dating an Estonian guy, and they both speak in English to one another, because the Russian girl felt Estonian was "worthless" and ideologically, not something she wanted to speak unless absolutely forced to in work settings.
Russia - Luckystar - 12-12-2010
Quote: (12-12-2010 12:29 PM)subutai Wrote:
An alternative to going to Russia are the Baltics which are filled with Russian girls.
And due to being relegated to 2nd class citizen status, Russians in the Baltics are on the wrong end of the socioeconomic matrix, thus learning & preferring ENGLISH (yes, English) to the native language of Estonian/Latvian/Lithuanian.
I even knew a Russian girl who was dating an Estonian guy, and they both speak in English to one another, because the Russian girl felt Estonian was "worthless" and ideologically, not something she wanted to speak unless absolutely forced to in work settings.
Subutai, great point. My trip to the Baltics is imminent thanks to your posts.
Russia - rudebwoy - 12-12-2010
Whoremonger - I am tired of you but I will state one thing. Not all blacks are African, I am Canadian (black) born in the UK.
I know Africans get a hard time in most European countries, I don't bro! In Sweden I was stared at like I was famous, I had 9's and one 10 stare me down hard. I don't dress like a rapper, I don't wear a gold chain and I do not talk ebonics. I dress in designer, understated not over the top.
I did witness African guys there but they seemed to be having a harder time of it, one girl told me that they all try to pretend they are Afro-American. One dude was walking with his girl and she completely turned around to smile at me.
I am not saying I am all that, but I am saying for certain black men Sweden is paradise.
For me it is a place I am seriously thinking of moving too, I will make my 4th trip this next year and analyze the situation.
There seems to be alot of BS politics going on there now.
As for Russia, I never really wanted to go there. I will however take everyone's advice and some day check out Ukraine. Two of my white colleagues went there twice in one summer and pretty much said the women were stunners. Odessa in the summer is suppose to be nice.
Russia - Global Baller - 12-12-2010
Quote: (12-11-2010 02:25 PM)VillaD_Rock Wrote:
But you also can't believe that white guys do damn well in Ethiopia.
White guys can do well in Ethiopia (as well as most of Africa) just as long as they are bring lots of dead presidents.
Russia - Global Baller - 12-12-2010
Quote: (12-12-2010 05:50 AM)Whoremonger Wrote:
Simple fact for you bro. Over the last 10 years, the African population has
doubled in Sweden. There is a very large African population that lives there and its one that is growing. Compared to the 80's where there were less than 10 000 there, there are well over 100 000 Africans living in Sweden now, with many more that travel and study there because of family and bursaries. Sweden invests heavily in Africa.
The novelty factor wore off and you are not as exotic as you used to be. You are not some rare, precious little snowflake. You need to have more going for you than just your black ass. Its still a good place for your black ass to go on the hunt though and your race will work in your favour, but its not the paradise it used to be.
Your ignorant, racist-based dribble annoys the hell outta me. You don't know jackshit about Sverige, or anywhere in Scandinavia. As I stated previously, I was in Sweden when you were in diapers -- simple fact, dippo. I stand by everything I've written about Sweden.
Furthermore, none of the brothas who frequent this forum pay any mind to your ish. They PM me for the facts.
Russia - MiXX - 12-12-2010
Quote: (12-12-2010 02:17 PM)Global Baller Wrote:
Quote: (12-11-2010 02:25 PM)VillaD_Rock Wrote:
But you also can't believe that white guys do damn well in Ethiopia.
White guys can do well in Ethiopia (as well as most of Africa) just as long as they are bring lots of dead presidents.
Yeah, but you can do well anywhere with 50k Euros in cash in a lunchbox. What's the point then? You become a guy paying for sex directly and mechanically.
Don't know, but the older I get, the less I want to floss.
Guys who floss cash is what I consider "new money".
Russia - Global Baller - 12-12-2010
Quote: (12-12-2010 01:24 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:
In Sweden I was stared at like I was famous, I had 9's and one 10 stare me down hard. I don't dress like a rapper, I don't wear a gold chain and I do not talk ebonics. I dress in designer, understated not over the top.
I did witness African guys there but they seemed to be having a harder time of it, one girl told me that they all try to pretend they are Afro-American. One dude was walking with his girl and she completely turned around to smile at me. I am not saying I am all that, but I am saying for certain black men Sweden is paradise.
Co-sign. I'm glad the bruhs aren't paying attention to the ignorant on this forum.
Russia - Lika - 12-12-2010
Quote: (12-12-2010 02:17 PM)Global Baller Wrote:
Quote: (12-11-2010 02:25 PM)VillaD_Rock Wrote:
But you also can't believe that white guys do damn well in Ethiopia.
White guys can do well in Ethiopia (as well as most of Africa) just as long as they are bring lots of dead presidents.
Lol...
As a white man, I've lived years and years in many African countries and I've gotten the hottest girls all the time for free (whereas black guys usually had to offer them money, cell phones, cars, houses...)
The reason is: they want to marry a white man and if possible a young, funny and good looking one
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Wake up! African women are not racist like black American guys like you would love them to be...
Russia - subutai - 12-12-2010
I thought about living in Sweden a looong time ago. But almost every guy I talked to who ended up there because of a woman/women weren't too happy with the place.
It's also pretty expensive, housing stock in the center especially, and the "perks" don't really make it worthwhile.
Russia - Lika - 12-12-2010
Quote: (12-12-2010 01:24 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:
I am not saying I am all that, but I am saying for certain black men Sweden is paradise.
I'm pretty sure that's right. At least I've witnessed it in other Western European countries with some tall average or good looking black friends. Some of the hot white girls are constantly drooling all over them (and not only hip hop chicks)
Russia - speakeasy - 12-12-2010
I know we are talking about Russia here but I wanted to chime in on something. Last night I was at a birthday party at a winebar and there was a girl there who was in town for a few weeks from Estonia. She was about a 9, tall blond, nice body and very Scandinavian looking like a living Barbie doll. She could easily be model material. Someone told me she had a boyfriend already so I didn't run any game on her, but I did go over and introduce myself and talk with her for a few. There was just an instant warmth from this girl you would never experience from an American woman. She was all smiles. When I shook her hand to greet her, she held onto it way longer than would be necessary in an almost caressing manner and seemed very eager to tell me about herself. In just that first 10 seconds she exuded femininity in a way I rarely see these days. Like I said, a warm behavior like this from an American 9 I just met I have never experienced. Even a 5 around here doesn't act like that. She's only the second girl I've ever met from Estonia, the first being this girl's cousin whose birthday it was last night at the party and she's cute herself. So I'm now all wondering what the women are like in that part of the world and if they are anything like her.
ps - before you guys jump on me for not having gone for it anyway despite her having a boyfriend, she wasn't my target. She had a brunette friend with her that was a solid 8-8.5 who I ended up talking to and number closing. And she was single and local.
Russia - Aliblahba - 12-12-2010
Quote: (12-12-2010 03:10 PM)speakeasy Wrote:
I know we are talking about Russia here but I wanted to chime in on something. Last night I was at a birthday party at a winebar and there was a girl there who was in town for a few weeks from Estonia. She was about a 9, tall blond, nice body and very Scandinavian looking like a living Barbie doll. She could easily be model material. Someone told me she had a boyfriend already so I didn't run any game on her, but I did go over and introduce myself and talk with her for a few. There was just an instant warmth from this girl you would never experience from an American woman. She was all smiles. When I shook her hand to greet her, she held onto it way longer than would be necessary in an almost caressing manner and seemed very eager to tell me about herself. In just that first 10 seconds she exuded femininity in a way I rarely see these days. Like I said, a warm behavior like this from an American 9 I just met I have never experienced. Even a 5 around here doesn't act like that. She's only the second girl I've ever met from Estonia, the first being this girl's cousin whose birthday it was last night at the party and she's cute herself. So I'm now all wondering what the women are like in that part of the world and if they are anything like her.
ps - before you guys jump on me for not having gone for it anyway despite her having a boyfriend, she wasn't my target. She had a brunette friend with her that was a solid 8-8.5 who I ended up talking to and number closing. And she was single and local.
Not all girls from Estonia are that open. On the flight from Stansted I sat next to a girl that had spent 3 months touring the U.S. She was very open and talkative. I thought this was the sign of the times and I would hit the ground like Rick James Bitch!!!! Not the case. Most girls I met had that "EE" vibe and were hard to open. Once they get to know you it's ok but it took me 2 weeks of constant social proofing to open the door. The hottest girl that has ever approached me was in Old Town. She was a solid 10, Russian, and had beautiful eyes. She asked for directions to the Russian Cafe. I completely dropped my game b/c of her hottness.She walked away but kept looking back and smiling. Fuck. Total AFC moment. One that I will ALWAYS regret.
A point I would like to bring up is it's not always about race. Some Russians in Estonia had some mad hate for me b/c of being from the U.S. And I learned very quickly to announce my country of origin. Most girls assumed I was British and were cold. Stag parties haven't done the Brits and favors over there.
Russia - VillaD_Rock - 12-12-2010
Ukraine sounds interesting
Russia - VillaD_Rock - 12-12-2010
Quote: (12-12-2010 02:17 PM)Global Baller Wrote:
Quote: (12-11-2010 02:25 PM)VillaD_Rock Wrote:
But you also can't believe that white guys do damn well in Ethiopia.
White guys can do well in Ethiopia (as well as most of Africa) just as long as they are bring lots of dead presidents.
You don't need money. Many are curious of white guys and want to try it. If Ethiopia happens to be a first world country, it would be the same. It's the Sweden for white guys.