This is easily the most extreme example of White Knightery I've read about. Needless to say, the fallout would've been a lot different for this guy had it been in the West - no offers of a cash reward, and most likely a life sentence.

My hat does go off to him for committing such a self-less act, but with the repercussions being death/serious injury or a long jail sentence, I'd most definitely have taken no action. Maybe it was his training and sense of strong moral code, rather than a conscious effort to save the girl (and other passengers).


"On September 2, 2010, the then 35-year-old Bishnu Shrestha after retiring from his Gurkha soldier military service was on his way to Gorakhpur and was travelling in Maurya Express (Hatia-Gorakhpur), when 15 to 40 armed robbers attacked the train near Chittaranjan, West Bengal and robbed the passengers of their valuables (money, jewellery, cellular phones and laptops).

When the bandits reached Shrestha, he was ready to give up his valuables, but then the 18 year old girl sitting next to him was grabbed by the robbers, who wanted to rape her. The girl, who knew Shrestha was a retired soldier, appealed to him for help. So he pulled out the large, curved khukuri knife that all Gurkha soldiers (and many Gurkha civilians) carry, and went after the bandits.

In the narrow aisle of the train, a trained fighter like Shrestha had the advantage. Although some of the bandits had pistols, they were either fake, or mishandled by the frightened robbers. After about ten minutes of fighting in the train aisles, three bandits were dead and many were wounded, and the rest of them decided to drop their loot (200 cell phones, 40 laptops, lots of jewelry, and nearly $10,000 in cash) and flee. The train resumed its journey promptly, in case the bandits came back, and to get medical aid for the eight bandits who had been injured by Shrestha.

Shrestha suffered a severe injury to his left arm and required two months of medical treatment to recover his injured hand.

Shrestha was pleased by the appreciation he received and thanked the media for covering the news.

“The Indian media brought the incident to light and the Nepali media too gave it due importance. I may have even been sent to jail on the charge of robbery had the girl and the Indian media not come forward to my support," Shrestha said. "I was hardly recognized even in Baidam [his neighborhood]. Now the whole country knows me."

When the intended rape victim's family offered him a large cash reward, he refused it with the following comment: 'Fighting the enemy in battle is my duty as a soldier. Taking on the thugs on the train was my duty as a human being.""

   

There are white knights and then there are heros. In my opinion this man is a hero.

Seems a bit far stretched to call this white knighting, there's a good chance he would have done the same if they were about to murder a man....

Some reading on him- http://www.badassoftheweek.com/shrestha.html

Complete badass and hero.

The Gurkha's are some of the fiercest soldiers on the planet. After the Brits encountered them in battle they decided to hire them.

Quote: (09-07-2014 11:12 PM)Windom Earle Wrote:  

the 18 year old girl sitting next to him...appealed to him for help.

The mental test of whether this is white knighting or not is whether he would have done all that if it had been something other than an 18-year-old girl.

Whether it was white knighting or not... That dude is a hard-ass.

This is not white knighting at all.

How would this guy have gotten a life sentence in the west?

Some of you forum newbies need your heads checked.

Quote: (09-08-2014 12:08 AM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

Quote: (09-07-2014 11:12 PM)Windom Earle Wrote:  

the 18 year old girl sitting next to him...appealed to him for help.

The mental test of whether this is white knighting or not is whether he would have done all that if it had been something other than an 18-year-old girl.

So now stopping rapists is white knighting?

This is starting to go overboard.

White Knighting is when some faggot cockblocks you under the guise of being chivalrous.

Not stopping and innocent person from being hurt by thugs.

Quote: (09-08-2014 12:08 AM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

Quote: (09-07-2014 11:12 PM)Windom Earle Wrote:  

the 18 year old girl sitting next to him...appealed to him for help.

The mental test of whether this is white knighting or not is whether he would have done all that if it had been something other than an 18-year-old girl.

In this case a 50 year old women would have had no need of saving, as she would be looking forward to an afternoon of rape-sex by a bunch of young men.

Of course we men do more to protect some women and children and this Guy was only a White Knight in so far, that he refused the cash offered by the woman's family. This was just unnecessary pride.

Apart from that - frankly I might have done the same. The girl likely would have been not only raped, but killed afterwards. There is no shame in risking your life for someone. And yes - I would have done the same for a guy, if I knew they were about to drag him off and kill him for some bogus reason (because he belonged to some religious sect they were not fond of, they did not like his skin-color etc.)

White Knighting is for example cock-blocking someone in a club or getting into a fight trying to protect a woman, who needs no protection, since she is just having a fight with her husband.

Risking your life in some instances for a good cause and even for a stranger is heroic and exemplifies greater human nature.

It's stupid to fuck with ghurkas. fearless fuckers.

Since there is:

A) no indication that Shrestha wouldn't have done it if a young man or any other person had personally appealed to him for help,
B) no indication that the girl is an ungrateful cunt who would view this selfless act as something she deserves as a woman before going to get fucked by the next bad boy on the carousel, and
C) proper gratitude/adoration from the public that is centered just on him and not couched as some sort of anti-male critique ("why don't all guys do this for their girlfriends..." - think of the reaction to that movie theater massacre)

I could hardly call him a white knight. From what I know about that area of the world, I would rather call it "tradition and martial honor working as intended".

I have read about this man before. He is a hero.

Quote: (09-08-2014 01:37 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  

This is not white knighting at all.

How would this guy have gotten a life sentence in the west?

Some of you forum newbies need your heads checked.

Self-defense laws are very strict, the reaction must be proportioned and you can't hit someone who's not an imminent threat (meaning if he kills your sister and start running away, if you hurt him you're now considered the attacker), etc.

Some of this guy's kukri strikes would have been self-defense, most wouldn't, and he would have been charged for those.

Maybe the media painting him as a hero helps in a trial, but he would be in deeper shit than most of the robbers if it happened in the west.

Quote: (09-08-2014 02:54 AM)Pantheon Dweller Wrote:  

Quote: (09-08-2014 01:37 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  

This is not white knighting at all.

How would this guy have gotten a life sentence in the west?

Some of you forum newbies need your heads checked.

Self-defense laws are very strict, the reaction must be proportioned and you can't hit someone who's not an imminent threat (meaning if he kills your sister and start running away, if you hurt him you're now considered the attacker), etc.

Some of this guy's kukri strikes would have been self-defense, most wouldn't, and he would have been charged for those.

Maybe the media painting him as a hero helps in a trial, but he would be in deeper shit than most of the robbers if it happened in the west.

In all states in America, as far as I know, you're protected by law when defending yourself or others with lethal force from serious forcible felonies such as kidnapping, armed robbery, rape, murder, etc.

Given the coverage, the people and the themes involved (men protecting women) there's not a prosecutor in the US that would've been dumb enough to try to go after him.

Well done to him for doing something others would avoid.

Quote: (09-08-2014 02:54 AM)Pantheon Dweller Wrote:  

Quote: (09-08-2014 01:37 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  

This is not white knighting at all.

How would this guy have gotten a life sentence in the west?

Some of you forum newbies need your heads checked.

Self-defense laws are very strict, the reaction must be proportioned and you can't hit someone who's not an imminent threat (meaning if he kills your sister and start running away, if you hurt him you're now considered the attacker), etc.

Some of this guy's kukri strikes would have been self-defense, most wouldn't, and he would have been charged for those.

Maybe the media painting him as a hero helps in a trial, but he would be in deeper shit than most of the robbers if it happened in the west.

He defended himself and an entire train of people from 15-40 armed robbers and rapists. I don't see him going to prison for this, even if he did it in California.

Too bad he didn't cut all 40 of their fucking heads off.

Quote: (09-08-2014 03:06 AM)TheWastelander Wrote:  

Quote: (09-08-2014 02:54 AM)Pantheon Dweller Wrote:  

Quote: (09-08-2014 01:37 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  

This is not white knighting at all.

How would this guy have gotten a life sentence in the west?

Some of you forum newbies need your heads checked.

Self-defense laws are very strict, the reaction must be proportioned and you can't hit someone who's not an imminent threat (meaning if he kills your sister and start running away, if you hurt him you're now considered the attacker), etc.

Some of this guy's kukri strikes would have been self-defense, most wouldn't, and he would have been charged for those.

Maybe the media painting him as a hero helps in a trial, but he would be in deeper shit than most of the robbers if it happened in the west.

In all states in America, as far as I know, you're protected by law when defending yourself or others with lethal force from serious forcible felonies such as kidnapping, armed robbery, rape, murder, etc.

Given the coverage, the people and the themes involved (men protecting women) there's not a prosecutor in the US that would've been dumb enough to try to go after him.

Those forcible felonies must be a imminent threats, so it would have worked for the few guys who held her, not for the other guys he hurt or killed. Actually, if you follow the law, even the guys who held her must be left alone as soon as they try to leave.

In the west, the media coverage would be the only thing that could save him. Protecting the girl from villains sure sounds badass, but I wouldn't bet my freedom on the media. Of course, his country's self-defense laws are likely less strict than ours.

Quote: (09-08-2014 01:49 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

Apart from that - frankly I might have done the same. The girl likely would have been not only raped, but killed afterwards. There is no shame in risking your life for someone. And yes - I would have done the same for a guy, if I knew they were about to drag him off and kill him for some bogus reason (because he belonged to some religious sect they were not fond of, they did not like his skin-color etc.)

That's very altruistic of you, but against a gang of robbers his chances were slim. He was far less likely to save her than to die for nothing (as they would still rape her after killing him) and you're not a Gurkha soldier so your chances are even slimmer.

Quote: (09-08-2014 03:28 AM)Pantheon Dweller Wrote:  

Quote: (09-08-2014 03:06 AM)TheWastelander Wrote:  

Quote: (09-08-2014 02:54 AM)Pantheon Dweller Wrote:  

Quote: (09-08-2014 01:37 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  

This is not white knighting at all.

How would this guy have gotten a life sentence in the west?

Some of you forum newbies need your heads checked.

Self-defense laws are very strict, the reaction must be proportioned and you can't hit someone who's not an imminent threat (meaning if he kills your sister and start running away, if you hurt him you're now considered the attacker), etc.

Some of this guy's kukri strikes would have been self-defense, most wouldn't, and he would have been charged for those.

Maybe the media painting him as a hero helps in a trial, but he would be in deeper shit than most of the robbers if it happened in the west.

In all states in America, as far as I know, you're protected by law when defending yourself or others with lethal force from serious forcible felonies such as kidnapping, armed robbery, rape, murder, etc.

Given the coverage, the people and the themes involved (men protecting women) there's not a prosecutor in the US that would've been dumb enough to try to go after him.

Those forcible felonies must be a imminent threats, so it would have worked for the few guys who held her, not for the other guys he hurt or killed. Actually, if you follow the law, even the guys who held her must be left alone as soon as they try to leave.

In the west, the media coverage would be the only thing that could save him. Protecting the girl from villains sure sounds badass, but I wouldn't bet my freedom on the media. Of course, his country's self-defense laws are likely less strict than ours.

Quote: (09-08-2014 01:49 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

Apart from that - frankly I might have done the same. The girl likely would have been not only raped, but killed afterwards. There is no shame in risking your life for someone. And yes - I would have done the same for a guy, if I knew they were about to drag him off and kill him for some bogus reason (because he belonged to some religious sect they were not fond of, they did not like his skin-color etc.)

That's very altruistic of you, but against a gang of robbers his chances were slim. He was far less likely to save her than to die for nothing (as they would still rape her after killing him) and you're not a Gurkha soldier so your chances are even slimmer.

Go back to University of Phoenix law school

This is not "white" knighting, this is just "knighting".

Props to him for having the balls to go up against such numbers to protect that innocent girl. Very few people would have the courage to do so.

He's a hero, especially in India where rape is an actual problem unlike the western world.

Quote: (09-08-2014 03:28 AM)Pantheon Dweller Wrote:  

Quote: (09-08-2014 03:06 AM)TheWastelander Wrote:  

Quote: (09-08-2014 02:54 AM)Pantheon Dweller Wrote:  

Quote: (09-08-2014 01:37 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  

This is not white knighting at all.

How would this guy have gotten a life sentence in the west?

Some of you forum newbies need your heads checked.

Self-defense laws are very strict, the reaction must be proportioned and you can't hit someone who's not an imminent threat (meaning if he kills your sister and start running away, if you hurt him you're now considered the attacker), etc.

Some of this guy's kukri strikes would have been self-defense, most wouldn't, and he would have been charged for those.

Maybe the media painting him as a hero helps in a trial, but he would be in deeper shit than most of the robbers if it happened in the west.

In all states in America, as far as I know, you're protected by law when defending yourself or others with lethal force from serious forcible felonies such as kidnapping, armed robbery, rape, murder, etc.

Given the coverage, the people and the themes involved (men protecting women) there's not a prosecutor in the US that would've been dumb enough to try to go after him.

Those forcible felonies must be a imminent threats, so it would have worked for the few guys who held her, not for the other guys he hurt or killed. Actually, if you follow the law, even the guys who held her must be left alone as soon as they try to leave.

In the west, the media coverage would be the only thing that could save him. Protecting the girl from villains sure sounds badass, but I wouldn't bet my freedom on the media. Of course, his country's self-defense laws are likely less strict than ours.

Quote: (09-08-2014 01:49 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

Apart from that - frankly I might have done the same. The girl likely would have been not only raped, but killed afterwards. There is no shame in risking your life for someone. And yes - I would have done the same for a guy, if I knew they were about to drag him off and kill him for some bogus reason (because he belonged to some religious sect they were not fond of, they did not like his skin-color etc.)

That's very altruistic of you, but against a gang of robbers his chances were slim. He was far less likely to save her than to die for nothing (as they would still rape her after killing him) and you're not a Gurkha soldier so your chances are even slimmer.

It isn't so black and white, as long as he felt reasonable fear for his life or that of a passenger, he was justified in taking action both morally and within the bounds of the law.

In addition if the State has Stand Your Ground laws he doesn't have to retreat at all. If the armed robbers were within reach of him in the train or within lunging distance he could still legally engage as he is in reasonable fear of his life. It is when they retreated from the train and actually disengaged that he could not engage them, which he did not.

Besides, no jury would ever convict a soldier for defending the life and virtue of a young woman (or man for that matter) regardless of whether or not there was a storm of media coverage, and it would ruin the political career of any DA foolish enough to prosecute him.

So a trained soldier with a weapon defending those who are frightened and intimidated by scum is a white knight now?

I very much doubt it. He made them shit their pants and prevented a rape of a woman. Fucked them up too. Should be thanked and this behaviour encouraged by those who are able.

Evil prospers when good men do nothing.

Quote: (09-08-2014 03:28 AM)Pantheon Dweller Wrote:  

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Quote: (09-08-2014 01:49 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

Apart from that - frankly I might have done the same. The girl likely would have been not only raped, but killed afterwards. There is no shame in risking your life for someone. And yes - I would have done the same for a guy, if I knew they were about to drag him off and kill him for some bogus reason (because he belonged to some religious sect they were not fond of, they did not like his skin-color etc.)

That's very altruistic of you, but against a gang of robbers his chances were slim. He was far less likely to save her than to die for nothing (as they would still rape her after killing him) and you're not a Gurkha soldier so your chances are even slimmer.

I am not saying that to be stupid fuck and attacking tanks with a pocket-knife.

It was a situation that warranted some survival chances - in a train, cramped place - not much so that you can be surrounded by 10 guys in an open field. He was armed and trained.

This kind of "not raising my head"- and "just following orders"-mentality is what is one of the worst traits in humanity. That was the standard defense at Nuremberg and is the same kind of defense that plenty of guys now are giving. Guess what - it certainly matters shit in the grand scheme of things. I am of the absolute conviction that some situations merit risking your life.

This seems to be one of them just as well as refusing following orders of your commanding officer as he tells you to shoot a bunch of innocents in cold blood. Humanity would be by far more difficult to control if it had more of those "White Knights" around. I certainly cannot imagine myself living a long life and still thinking about that girl I might have saved or at least done something - you know - the one I later heard was raped and mutilated, while I sat comfortably in my seat.

You can bet your ass off, that if there is another life in case of reincarnation you would wish to change that kind of behavior in you next time around.

I missed the part where she rewarded him with pussy.

Quote: (09-08-2014 07:29 AM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

I missed the part where she rewarded him with pussy.

The family did offer him a large cash reward, which is pretty cool.

I agree this gurkha is not a white knight.

He's a:



And there's a lesson here for all would-be robbers and rapists: if you're thinking of tangling with a gurkha, wear a Tena Lady. It'll save you the indignity of pissing your pants when he chops you into chunky salsa.